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Working on overweight people

Recipe Overview, Hours 1-6

7^th hour Fritz Perls story

Continue Review of The Recipe, Hours 1-6

Coccyx and the Ganglion of Impar

Sutherland, Swedenborg, and Boericke

7^th Hour

Working in the mouth

Working on overweight people

(0:37) So who wants to start the ball rolling? With a question, with a suggestion, a remark.

(0:54 student) Yes, I have a general question I’ve been wondering about. All the people that we’ve had as models, and all the people that I’ve ever seen worked on, I’ve never seen a fat person worked on. What sort of problems do you run into over that?

(1:06) You just have trouble getting down there. You just have trouble getting down there. By and by it lets you through, but it takes you longer and more hard work to get through. When you get a guy that weighs over 200lbs. you’ve got a job on your hands. You were here Friday? … thinking of his 210lbs, but Peter took that one on. See I was already to a place where I could get a considerable cruise going.

(1:44) Oh! Our friend Stan Kellerman, speaking of fat men that want work, called up the other day, and he said he would like to talk to me. And I said, “Well that’s very nice, I would like to talk to him, but until these classes are over, I just didn’t have the time.” And he said, well he thought it would be good for him to come into a 5 day workshop, he might learn something. And I said “Yes, but the trouble was there were not 5 day workshops.”

“Well how long were workshops?”

“6 weeks.” Well he couldn’t see how he could possibly do that…now Kellerman is the guy I do not wish to demonstrate on how you get through fat people. Actually this guy Frank wasn’t too thin you know. I would guess 250 to 275 … he’s a big-framed man anyway…

(3:20 student) His calves were about the size of my waist.

(3:25) That’s right. He’s one of these enormous people.

(3:28) Feldenkrais was the last one I really wanted to do.

Recipe Overview, Hours 1-6

(3:36) Follow the recipe.

(3:41 student) Stir slower.

(3:48 student) Get somebody to spread, and then you can work.

(3:50) Well the trouble is that top layer won’t let you by. It just won’t let you by. At any rate, let’s take a brief look back. And let’s see how, for 6 hours we have been horizontaling the pelvis. And you remember the routine; 1^st hour: the opening of the things that held the pelvis; 2^nd hour: putting a support under it, lengthening up from it

3^rd hour: you’re still lengthening, still lengthening; going deeper with each hour. Getting down in the 3^rd hour to the quadratus. In the 4^th hour you’re doing the job on the adductors. Again you’re straightening legs. But you’re doing much more than that: your organizing core, because you see, until you get to that 4^th hour adductor organization, until you get there, you have nothing through which to get to the floor of the pelvis – by means of which to get to the floor of the pelvis. And when you get to the 4^th hour, you are sort of closing in, edging your way closer and closer to the actual attachments of the floor of the pelvis.

(5:53) And obviously, obviously one has directly affected that floor, in that hour, or it would not have been possible, in the case of these three woman – which is 100% of the sample we used – to have had that tremendous increase in capacity of the perineum; to control itself and to hold it. I can’t see any other explanation. Incidentally, it should be said here, something which I take for granted so many times that I don’t bother to talk about it: the fact that many, many times when you have childless couples who are really anxious for a child; they will get one, by at the end of about a year. Takes a year, apparently, for this thing to organize itself and for that couple to become fecund for some reason. Obviously this isn’t going to happen in a 100% of cases, but it does happen in a great many cases.

(7:10) The 4^th hour does a very great deal toward making physically intolerable marriages physically tolerable. And so you get a certain peace and quiet going on in these marriages, and they settle down and either are willing to adapt or now they’re going to really split. But at any rate, they are no longer sitting on the fence, and are now to a place where they have the data, which enables them to make up their mind. This is where they had the physical data… So, you see that whole 4^th hour is very intimately wound up with the whole problem of sexual adjustment and recognition. And so it becomes an extremely important hour in that sense.

(8:19) But the 5^th hour is no less important. Because by the 5^th hour you are beginning to utilize – well like in all these hours – you are beginning to utilize what you have made in the 4^th hour, in terms of balance and in terms of freeing. You are beginning to use this to go up into the body – into the rest of the body – and relieve tension on organs. And you’re doing this through the relationship of the recti abdominis, which you see is really a pelvic muscle, and which is really concerned with the horizontal organization of the pelvis.

(9:31) But primarily, you are doing it by virtue of the fact that you are organizing the psoas, and in your organization of the psoas, you are almost reaching with your hand, into the lumbar places and affecting the characteristics of the lumbar plexus – the structures which are innervated by the plexus. So that you see, you get into all those abdominal organs. You’re also affecting the diaphragm, and through the diaphragm, the solar plexus, and through the diaphragm, the position of the heart, the behavior of the heart, and the stress on the heart. And so in this 5^th hour you’re working your way upward, out of the pelvis, into the structures whose well-being depends upon the positioning of the pelvis. And you see, your 4^th hour has taken on the positioning of the floor of the pelvis, and the 5^th hour begins to turn it up in the front. So that it has support under the abdominal organs. And your 6^th hour, you are still working with the pelvis and balancing that basin; you are now going in primarily to balance the sacrum with the rest of the pelvis. And just as, through the entire series, we have never gone where we are working, so here you don’t go where you are working, but you go to the areas that influence the sacral position.

(12:56) Now, in order to balance the rotators, one of which is the immediate determinate of sacral position, you have to also give a lot of attention to the hamstrings, and therefore and thereby to the back of the legs, because everything is connected with everything else, and there’s no way of escaping this.

(12:38) But by the end of the 6^th hour, you see, you have built up from the ground up an organization that should have its 2 feet pretty squarely on the ground. Its thighs over its legs. Its pelvis over its thighs. The lumbar structure coming back so that it is also transmitting its weight down through that pelvis according to the proper design.

(13:26) And so that whole thing, you see, begins to take on a different look and a different aspect. Now you’re stable with respect to the bottom, and now you have to do something about getting stable with respect to the top. And the thing to do isn’t just to sweep that top under the rug. You can’t do it. For one reason you can’t do it because it is too close and too determining of the functioning of the biggest nerve plexus in the body, the brain.

(14:21) And so now you have to go up and you have to horizontal the head. And then you can put your horizontal head, the top your horizontal pelvis, and put your 2 ends together. Now the head, in addition to being the head, is also so intimately connected with the whole cervical structure – the vertebrae, the muscles, etc. etc. And some of you here present know, even better than I, the history concerning the fact that there have been schools within the general chiropractic schools, there have been groups, who claimed that by the proper organization of the atlas, or the atlas on the axis; or some few; more of an organization of the cranium on the atlas. But, by this you could “right” anything in the body. Now I do not go with those people, as is perfectly obvious to you. But the fact remains that there have been an awful lot of them around and that an awful lot of money has changed hands, from people who were satisfied with what they did for them, to the practitioner.

(16:18) So, obviously what this particular phenomenon is saying is that, the position of the cervical vertebrae is exceedingly important in determining the well being of the body. And as you begin to look at the structure, you begin to understand that this is necessarily so. Because just as the position of the vertebrae further down the line determine the position, and the nutrition, and the well being of the autonomic nervous system down the line, so the position of the cervical vertebrae determine the position of the upper 3 autonomic plexi; the cervical plexi, superior inferior and medial. And what’s its name? The middle… cervical plexus. The superior plexus and the inferior plexus, and the third? What about you Peter?

(17:35 student) The middle.

(17:37) It’s not the middle. It’s another name.

(17:41) The middle ganglion. It is the stoic, but there’s a name which indicates it’s the intermediate you see. Anyway, well, it would be a very good idea sometime today to get your anatomy books out and to really take a good look at this whole bit, because the superior autonomic ganglion innervates the eyes, the ears, lots of stuff inside the head.

(18:29) By the time you begin to get to that medial ganglion, you begin to get innervation going from above below, you begin to get strands that go down as far as the heart. And this is a very important control mechanism – or not control mechanism, but determining mechanism – on the whole organization and control of the heart and its functions. And the lower ganglion does the same thing; it goes into the lungs as well. And then through the neck, very superficially, passes the great vegas nerve, which is a cranial nerve, not a [cercum suital nerve], and it goes all the way down, sending strands to the heart, in terms of regulating it’s mechanism, and more to the gut as a whole. And on its well-being determines the balance that talks about what kind of digestive balance you can attain. Digestive function ‘cause your digestive function, again, is a balance between nervous systems….

(12:09) Okay, anyway, all of this is determined in terms of that cervical structure which at this point you had better take a good look at and deal with. What do they say?

(20:35 student) It’s a diagram that is quite good.

(20:34) Yeah, that is quite good. Superior, middle, and inferior. Oh yeah…

(20:42 student) You said it first.

(20:46) Pass this…

(20:54 student) Is that a Lang book Mack?… physiology? In fact, any of those Lang publications are a really good synopsis for people who haven’t been through medicine. They’re really good, on any subject.

(21:20) Now, some of you have had your hands in your own necks, and in other people’s necks, and you have found that in too many necks you don’t feel anything but this “slick bump”, which is really the wrapping around the vertebral stem itself, and so you realize, that where you get this kind of an abstraction of how these cervical ganglia lie, what you are really talking about is that those cervical ganglia have to lie on this slick connective tissue envelope that encases vertebrae, and that any distortion of the vertebrae is going to show up a very marked influence on those ganglia and their functioning.

(22:30) People will often say to you, even after the 1^st hour, “Oh, I see things I didn’t see when I came in here. I can see that corner of the room clearly. Isn’t that funny. You didn’t do anything to my eyes.” No, but you better have fixed those cervical ganglia or you haven’t done you stuff.

7^th hour Fritz Perls story

(22:58) And you see then therefore, therefore and then, this becomes one of the most important of the hours. I don’t know, they’re all important. There’s a story about this hour that maybe you better hear, because from time to time myths arise. And there are all kinds of them around this town, as you very well know. And that myth concerns Fritz and me. And these are some of the facts of the case. I’m talking about Fritz Perls, of course.

(23:46) Fritz was in very great pain, and very great misery with his anginal problems about 5 years ago, 6 years ago. And, very few times in the course of my experience with Fritz have I ever heard him say that he had gotten to the stage where he was willing to die. He was willing to die at that point, because he said the pain that he was in was more than he could handle. And at this stage, he gave a seminar down in Los Angeles in the home of this [ ] in Laguna Beach, and it so happened that Dorothy Nolte was in that seminar, and she saw how miserable he was, and she went up to him at the end of one of the sessions and she said, “Fritz I’d like to take you upstairs, and I’d like to show you what we do, because I think it’s important that you should know about it”; and she took him upstairs, and she gave him a 1^st hour, and she had the luck of the Irish, it worked. And it completely took that pain away, and Fritz was pain free for some weeks. And Fritz being Fritz, knew that he was now clear forever, and that it wasn’t at all necessary that on his way back from Florida to where he was going, and he stopped in New York, oh no.

(25:30) So he got back having been bumped around and in various airplanes, etc. etc. for a while, and of course it wasn’t fixed. And the pain returned, and then he wanted Dorothy to do another hour on him, and she said no, she wouldn’t take the responsibility. (Which was proper, because this girl has absolutely no license, and if he died under her hands it really would have been a mess.) But she says, “If you can get Ida out here, I bet she can do something for you.” And so they telephoned that night, or sometime soon, and asked me whether I would come out here and work with Fritz Perls, and I said, yes, I’d come out here sometime when he was giving a seminar because I’ve never seen him work, and I wanted to see him at work.

(26:20) So I arranged to come out at a seminar in a couple of weeks, etc. etc., and I got in, and Fritz was still in utter misery. And I got in one Friday afternoon, and between that Friday afternoon and the following Friday afternoon, or Saturday afternoon; 8 or 9 days, I gave Fritz six more hours of work – (and Dorothy had given him his 1^st). And sometimes the going was kind of rough. But at any rate, on the following Friday afternoon, on a Saturday, (seems to me I remember I left on that Saturday morning)… I gave him a 7th hour of work, and right under my hands the man went unconscious. Needless to say my knees were shaking, and I guess if anyone had been around, which they weren’t, I’d have been looking pretty green, and I said to myself, that I was a bloody fool to take on a man as badly off as this.

(27:30) And along about that moment, I stopped panicking and started looking, and I said, “Yeah, but this isn’t the picture of a man dying of a heart attack. This is the picture of a man on anesthesia.” And so I kept my hands on his head and on his neck, and waited for him to get out of it, and presently after a matter of, I don’t know; a minute, it was a week, I’m sure it was a week! He opened his eyes and of course I prayed to the good lord that he wouldn’t have known that he was unconscious, but the good lord was out to lunch and so the first thing that Frits said was. “Well, yes. They really gave me a hard time that time.”

(28:28) And he proceeded to unravel an episode of surgery many years before, when he was certain that they had damaged his neck in the course of the anesthesia. And to those of you who over and over and over again come to me and say, “Why can’t you use anesthesia in this work?" here is the answer. You will never do anything that’s so bad without anesthesia that you will damage situations, without their being in such misery, that you quit. But under anesthesia you can do all kinds of things. And when he came out of that anesthesia, he said to the anesthetist, and he told him, that he had caused damage to his neck. And of course, they insisted that there was no damage done. But you see, what had actually been done, was that something had thoroughly disturbed this whole left chain of ganglia, here.

29:35) And that, as and when it recovered, it did not go back where it belonged. And from that time on it started, a little and a little, this deterioration, which ended up in this heart condition. And from the day that my knees shook, and he “died”, from that day he never had another intense angina attack. He had a few that were relatively minor and by and by he settled down to having a heart that worked practically normally, and as you all know, he’d walk up from the bath to that house up there of his, which certainly gets me tuckered and still does, and this was par for the course for him. And what he was complaining about when he did it was not walking up that hill and what it did to his heart, but what it did to his legs …he’d come in complaining about his legs, and his legs and his legs. Little by little, he started getting over the leg business.

(30:43) But at any rate, this is the indication to you of the significance of these plexi. And I think that some of the cures that the cervical school of chiropractors credit to chiropractic are really not due to the cervical vertebrae – the 2^nd and 3^rd cervical vertebrae – as much as they’re due to the replacement, you see, of this chain of autonomic plexi. The fact of the matter remains that as you do a proper job of the neck and the head and the organization of that top segment of the body, you get all kinds of very dramatic episodes, coming in terms of hearing, in terms of sightedness, in terms of hay fever, in terms of 20-year old sinuses and post nasal drips and that sort of thing, as well as in terms of asthma and emphysema, and all of these things you just almost put your finger on and turn around when you get into that neck structure, if you do a good job. So that you have here one of the most important hours as far as your affecting well-being is concerned.

(32:39) So, today we are going to have to start on Frank with this 7^th hour, and in as much as he’s a “fresh” guy anyway, we can expect to have a fresher guy around.

(33:02) I would suggest that this moment while we’re waiting for him… Let’s get this line up and let’s look at people’s heads, and you can look at the people’s heads who aren’t in the line up.

Continue Review of The Recipe, Hours 1-6

(33:33)… about the road that we traveled to get to today’s work, and to point out what we need to know to do today’s work.

(33:46 student) Where would you like for me to start?

(33:55) Well, don’t start too recently. Bridge the connections, as you understand it…

(34:15 student) The assumptions we are working on are that the body is segmented and it’s plastic. It’s fluid down to the cellular level, which means that we can change it, and it’s segmented, which means that we can relate it to each other, the parts to each other. And the name of the work is called Structural Integration, and the word structure itself connotes that there is a relationship, so we are working with relationship. And the word “integration connotes that we are working with relationships both intra body and outside of the body; or the energy fields inside of the body and energy field related to larger energy fields. That’s the basis on which we start.

(35:04 student) And in the first session we sort of unwrap and balance what is brought to us – what the body brings to us. And this is a very superficial level unwrapping, and yet it’s a very dramatic kind of an hour, because there are many, many changes that are visible to the person being processed. And the first hour differs from the other hours in the sense that the first hour you are balancing what’s already there; you are not putting in that much, or your emphasis is more on balancing what’s available then putting in. The other 9 hours you are putting in.

(35:44) No, the other 8 hours you are putting in. The 10^th… back to balancing…

(35:52 student) The other 8 hours you’re putting in. The 9^th you are coming back to balancing.

(35:54) Right.

(35:55 student) So, you’re in that 1^st hour, and you do several things to the man.

You improve his oxygen exchange; you free his thorax so that he can get more fuel for his machine there to start working, so that it will have the circulation and the oxygen to establish the changes that you –

(36:21) Propose.

(36:22 student) Propose, or permit; the changes that you’re allowing.

(36:27) That you’re evoking.

(36:28 student) Evoking, yeah, that’s the word I’m looking for. So that it will have the substance to do it with. And in that 1^st hour, very briefly and over simplified, you’re trying to take the thorax from being jammed down on the pelvis and take the legs from being jammed up in the pelvis; so you are trying to free the pelvis. The thing you are working toward in the 1^st hour is the pelvic lift, so that you will get a little movement in his lumbars, so he will feel his pelvis a freedom to start changing. And you generally go over the entire body, with the exception of the knees down. And when you look at a pre-2 it should be pretty obvious that there had been no work from the knees down. And so the body sort of leads you to where it wants to be worked on next. And for me personally, this is the big change that I’ve seen in me between this 6 weeks and the last 6 weeks, is that now I’m beginning to see the body active, where the other 6 weeks the recipe was trying to get out here, so the body is kind of asking –

(37:37) That’s the object of the exercise in this 6 weeks, in your 2nd 6 weeks.

(37:40 student) It’s a very beautiful kind of a thing too. A completely different orientation. ‘Cause I’m traditionally a “head” man, I think. I decide to put it out here and then go from here instead of –

(37:50) May I at this point make what seems to me to be a very pertinent comment, Bill has been a "head" man, and he’s always – ever since I’ve known him – been able to give a talk like this and do it very well. And yet somehow this morning, you have a feeling of solidity in the man that hasn’t been there before. There is more of Bill in his voice and behind his voice. And it seems to me, though this I think is largely imagination, that what he’s saying is more solid. I think this is imagination, I think it’s just my hearing of the tone, but is there, anybody who would sort of stand behind me and say, yeah, I see it too?

(38:34student) Yeah, I see it… in his voice, and… centered.

(38:40) Yeah, he sounds like so much more person…

(38:55 student) OK. So the 2^nd hour, we’re trying to build in mobility, in the sense that we’re trying to establish some horizontal hinges, and we’re looking at the ankle and we’re working from the knee down, and we work with the ankle through the attachments, or the other end of the ankle; through the knees, the muscles from the knee down, including all the muscles in the foot. And we notice when we’re doing that through, that the entire body is changing; that the height of the shoulders are changing, and often times you see changes in the face, as you’re working around the ankle, and you see all kinds of changes in the circulation, and the respiration, and this sort of thing.

(39:38 student) Coming up to the 3^rd hour, we see that the man has pre-3rd hour; that he has lengthened in the front, and in the 2nd hour we noticed that he has lengthened in the back, and he has a squashed-in feeling on both sides, as you observe the man; so the body is calling that you go there, which is what you do. And so the third hour you’re lengthening the lateral sides of the body, and this can take you all the way up to the neck and down to the knee, and depending upon the particular body you’re working with. And you’re separating and you’re getting the length of the, ah, I think it’s a law of 13 and a half or something, that if you look to lengthen a muscle you go across. You’re looking for length so you obviously go across the muscle as you go up.

(40:30 student) After the 3^rd hour, and when he’s had time to set for a day or so, and you look at him again, and his medial line is short. Which shows up to me, first of all, in between the leg. But if you look at the man a little bit longer, maybe again this is imagination, but you can sort of see the shortness even through this area – through the top of the head, down. So you go to that area. And like the 3^rd hour, you’re again looking for length, so you go across, and you start inside the legs, and you go up, (and again the body is sort of, in the 4^th hour rather – the body is almost dragging you and you started peripheral, which is another principle, and it sort of pulls you up the adductors and pulls you into the rami, and then when you start at the rami and you get the gracilus, it sort of pulls you around to the back, and you kind of sense you need to do something on the back, which you do – hopefully you do – and then –

(41:30) Well, what do you do on the back?

(41:34 student) Well, again you’re trying to get length.

(41:35) Oh, you mean literally on the back. I thought you were talking about, it’s pulling you around to the back of the pelvis, which also you are looking for.

(41:43 student) Yes, which seems even more – you don’t stop at the back of the pelvis. It feels that you need to go up.

(41:49) Well this is true, but see you haven’t stressed the fact that this 4^th hour will pull you into the hamstrings.

(42:00 student) Right. It’s the first hour you directly go into the pelvis.

(42:05) Yes.

(42:07) And if I remember correctly, I think last time you made a statement, which hit me (because it was pretty pictorial), that this is a time, the ramus is a time, …it is the port of entry to the harbor of good tone…

(42:38) I must meet that woman some day!

(42:57) The reason I put my 2 cents in, is because I didn’t hear you remembering that that pelvis has to be organized from the ischia too, by way of the hamstrings.

(43:14 student) Which is why you go down similar to the 1^st hour.

(43:18) That’s right, but deeper.

(43:22 student) Actually it’s different because you’re concentrating on the ischia, and you’re doing different things. You’re manipulating the ischia rather than just loosening –

(43:27) That’s right. That’s right. And you’re probably separating on the ischia, what is apt to be a bunch of hamstrings plus adductor magnus. You see, this is after we all run together. What you are doing is isolating it, so that you now have adductor magnus and separate hamstrings.

(43:53 student) I sort of see the 4^th, 5^th, and 6^th hours as sort of putting the pelvis in the center of a spider web.

(44:03) That’s right.

(44:05 student) and you’re going around and you’re releasing – you can’t release everything – so you’re releasing what you can, which leaves you something else, and which releases something else, and after a while the center of the spider web is no longer bound up with all these strings you’ve pulled.

(44:14) That’s right. That’s right.

(44:19 student) So the pre-5^th hour picture is one that you would not be proud of after a 1^st hour, … they generally look worse than they do at the first. They’re pulled down, the thorax is pulled down, and you can see that something is happening on the front of the pelvis, so your intention is to go in there and free that particular part of the spider web and get all those cobwebs out of there; which is the rectus abdominis, (primarily). And you start by freeing it at the periphery – which is up here – the periphery away from the pelvis. And you go down that and free up the pubes, and then you go under, and you’re looking for the psoas. And you go in there and sometimes you normally sort of tickle it, and that’s a pretty big job, for some people. And you notice that the lumbars go back more than they ever have before.

(45:20 student) And then, the pre-6^th hour and you look again, and you’ve gotten from the underside of the pelvis from back around the hamstrings, and you’ve gotten the front side of the pelvis, and there’s still something obviously wrong with the thing, so you look to the rotators. And again starting at the peripheries, which can be the ankles, and coming up the front side of the shin, usually on the lateral side of the shin there’s a tie up with most peoples legs, and you free going up, and separating the hamstrings. And you’re looking – the key to unlocking the lock on this pelvis at this hour is the piriformis. And the reason that’s so important is because it goes to the [ ], the anterior part of the sacrum, which is the part we haven’t been able to get to, and usually the part that faces anterior and the apex is posterior too much, and so you work in that area, and the key, the hallmark to know you’ve done a pretty good job, is that the breathing starts, and when the breathing starts you can see the pumping action of the pelvis – when they are laying on their stomach. And often times you have to go up in the areas of the rhomboids, or in the lumbar thorax hinge area, because it may be held up there.

Coccyx and the Ganglion of Impar

(46:47) Hold on a minute Bill. You haven’t really stressed the fact that… three times up to date when you have been able to take a look at the coccyx and perhaps do something about it – the 1^st hour, the 4^th hour, and the 6^th hour. And if you haven’t got it done by that time, in the first place you’re throwing rocks in your own way, but in the second place there is no other logical place coming up where you can do this. But more than this, you are throwing rocks in your own path, because if that coccyx is not able to swing itself, to hammock itself, between those two ischia, you can’t get the kind of balance in a pelvis that you’re looking for! And you saw on some of these people here, where fairly good 4^th hours had been done – saw them done for instance, fairly good 4^th hours had been done – that you weren’t getting the response, and the reason you weren’t getting the response was that coccyx had not been appropriately organized. And in addition to the sacrum being your target in the 6^th hour, the coccyx and its relation to the sacrum and to the ischia is an absolute must in that hour.

(48:36) We all still tend to think in terms of medicine, of the physiology of the anatomy that we’ve been taught; that a coccyx isn’t that important. You break your coccyx, all right, you have a bad time, quite some little time, but then it’s over, and “There’s nothing we can do about it,” says the medic. But you see, this is one of the basic premises that need to be changed. A coccyx is a very important, a very significant, indicator of what’s going on and I called your attention the other day to the fact that one of the reasons why the coccyx is such an important indicator is because it gives into the nervous system by virtue of the placement of the Ganglion of Impar. Now the coccyx is also this very important member of the body by virtue of the fact that it is the anchorage for the pubococcygeus. And if that coccyx is all askew there is nothing which gives you an appropriately toned and an appropriately balanced floor of the pelvis.

(50:02) You see, in the 4^th hour when you’re dealing with the floor of the pelvis, you take a look at the coccyx, but in the 6^th hour when you’re finishing your precise pelvic work, it better be good!

(50:21) You see, the pelvis is the important major goal that you’re working with, and for, in all these earlier hours. But that coccyx is a vital part of the pelvis, because it determines the floor. And in determining the floor, it determines it to a large degree, the general tone of the sympathetic nervous system.

(51:02) And I talked about this, fairly briefly, in terms of the old yogic principle of dilating the anus. And it is still a very satisfactory way of handling a great many situations that have to do with the nervous systems. Insomnia for one, any sort of spasm of the intestinal tract for another, I quoted the kind of tension headaches that come up at the end of a long day at the office, etc, etc. You just put a rectal dilator in and it’s just unbelievable how the whole circulatory balance of that body changes. And the only way this can really be happening, is through the levator anus, through the [pilococcygia], and through what is going on in terms of the nervous balance. The level of which is determined by the position of the coccyx. Let’s not forget about this. And let’s get into a sort of reality about the fact that there is little doubt in my mind that what these yogic people where talking about in terms of their lowest center, is this nervous plexus that lies in this area.

(53:02) Now, I don’t know, and I don’t know anybody that does know – if I did I’d take the time to go and find out from him– about the relations of these centers to the actual anatomical physical nervous plexus. And I’m sure that the only way any of these boys are going to know about it, is through the kind of 5th hour the voice within me says stuff, Casey said stuff, etc. etc; these are psychic methods.

(53:35) My job I feel, is to take stuff out of that psychic realm and bridge it into a place where we have more demonstrable material in the 3-diminsional physical world, with which we can work to make better 3-diminsional physical beings.

(53:57) And the psychic information, this 5^th hour information, I do not feel is sufficiently verifiable – repeatable by many people – to be useful at this particular time. I’m not saying it’s wrong. I’m not saying they don’t get insights, I’m not saying they don’t get truth. I feel that everything that is known, everything that becomes known by the “scientific method” long before it becomes known that way is known intuitively, by people who are endowed in that 5^thhour area, that 5^thlevel area. But I do not feel that our culture at this time can profit that much by that kind of information, except as a sort of map toward which to go. To say “I know it there”. I don’t think that we’re entitled to do this at this point – 50 years from now, 100 years from now. I don’t know.

(55:13) But at any rate, what I’m stressing here is the importance of that coccyx to your understanding of the body, to your establishment of good functioning of the body, and perhaps to your enlightenment concerning the relationship of functioning within the body, perhaps. It just depends on how much is in your particular mind. But don’t forget that coccyx.

(55:54 student) It’s interesting, I was reading in the book last night, the Ganglion of Impar is the only unpaired ganglia in the whole chain, with the exception of the brain stem. So the brain stem and the impar are kind of the ends of where they come together.

(56:03) I know. I’m awful glad you know, but where did you see it in print?

(56:10 student) In that book that I showed you yesterday.

(56:13) You did? Get me a copy of the book.

(56:15 student) The book that wasn’t worth anything.

(56:17) I said it was too much of a specialist book, I didn’t say it wasn’t worth anything.

(56:25 student) There’s quite a long description of that ganglion.

(56:28) Ok, let’s copy the description.

(56:30) The information that I have about that Ganglion of Impar never came out of a nice respectable anatomy book, it came from the old medicine, and in the old medicine, down through the centuries, they’ve understood about that Ganglion of Impar. And they controlled such things as epileptic seizures through that Ganglion of Impar. And I presume they were thinking in terms of centers rather than ganglia. But at any rate, it has been done.

(57:13) Okay, Bill.

(57:14 student) Okay, just one thing I would like to add about hours 4, 5 and 6. One, 2, and 3 are sort of getting you ready to get into the meaty part of the nut, I guess, and I see it sort of as a sine curve, and 4, 5 and 6 are right at the middle of the course, or the processing.

(57:39) I can see what you are saying.

(57:41 student) And this is a high point, and it’s got to be done now, or it won’t be done because from here on out, you’re putting things together on the assumption that the pelvis is where you situated it.

(57:50) That you’ve got something to put together.

(57:53 student) Right. … I’m not saying they’re the most important hours, but if they’re not done right, they’re…..

(58:00) Between us gals, each one is important, because each one, if you do not have it done you cannot build on it. See, each one is a step that you’re laying on top of the step below it, and if the step below it is out of line – not deep enough and so forth – you’ve got nothing on which to build.

(58:23 student) To qualify this issue, you can’t go back, after you finish with it?

(58:23 student) I don’t know if you can go back to them, but I don’t think you can go forward from them until you’re finished.

(58:30) That’s right.

(58:33) Because you’re not putting together. You don’t have anything to put stuff on.

(58:37) That’s right, and you see, this is the basic difference between what we are trying to convey in this classroom to each other, and all the other more orthodox systems of teaching. ‘Cause if you’ve been through chiropractic, through osteopathy and so forth, where there is no sense of this fundamental progression which you have to understand and utilize to change an individual. They are repeating on the same thing. They are trying to fix something that has become unfixed. But this is not what we are talking about. You have to build step by step by step. You have to climb on to the next step in order to get to the following step, and you can’t jump; and this becomes your problem as you get out of this class and you start to work. You know it in your head, but somehow your hands have not gotten the rhythm, and then you get scared to death that “Oh I’m going too deep.” And the fact of the matter is that you haven’t gone deep enough to clean off the steps so that you can really make it horizontal – lay something on it; it’s full of accretions, of garbage. And you can’t balance the stuff on top of that heap of garbage! etc.

(1:00:17) So, now you go from a Ganglion of Impar, to the other ganglion at the other end of the line.

Sutherland, Swedenborg, and Boericke

(1:00:27) Oh, wait! There’s something I want to say. Other than Fritz, is there anyone in this room who’s ever heard of an osteopath whose name is Sutherland?

(1:00:40 student) Yes, you mentioned him last 6 weeks.

(1:00:47) Yeah, I remember, I did give a very extended discussion on this.

(1:00:54) … Anyway, Sutherland was a man who was rather in the age group with old Dr. Still. Now, he was middle aged when Dr. Still was old. Dr. Still founded osteopathy, and those two men were great friends. But Sutherland apparently was a pretty smart guy and he went to various hidden sources. Dr. Still was a much more, (how shall I say?) a much less subtle guy than Sutherland. And Sutherland apparently went to the books of Swedenborg to get an understanding of human beings. And out of this study of his, (which he has never acknowledged thereafter,) he came up with the recognition of a different function of respiration. And this different function of respiration is important to you people.

(1:02:12) And he said that the primary mechanism of respiration was not the lungs – the ribs going in and out and the lungs filling and emptying – he said this was a by-product of respiration. He said that the primary function of respiration was a respiring within the spinal structure. He postulated that the cranium was in itself a movable and a pumping device, well, part of the pumping device, and that there was a flow of the spinal fluid, which was in response to that primary respiration, which is the primary respiration, according to Sutherland, and that this whole lung bit was just a nice little piece of velvet that’s given you an addition to take care of oxygen supply. But that, the real vital movement of the body – life of the body, vitality of the body – was this movement of the spinal fluid in the spinal structure.

(1:03:50 student.) It’s Sparinsky’s.

(1:03:55) Well. Okay. I asked Dick last night to look for that book. If that’s Sparinsky's thing then I don’t know Sparinsky’s book. And as I say, it is my belief, and I don’t really know Swedenborg that well, it was my belief that this was advancements of some books of Swedenborg’s that are called The Brain.

(1:04:22) And working on this premise, Sutherland started a group within the osteopaths who were known as the cranial osteopaths, and there are still some few of them around, (it’s not a growing movement), and they did some extremely interesting things by simply holding the head, but not too tightly at that, and allowing the movement, with this restricted head, to change the spine. And as I say, they did some quite impressive things, especially in terms of spastic children.

(1:05:20) And they started a movement, (which should have had a great deal more publicity than it has ever had) of taking a look at a child’s head after birth, and simply by – it’s really a quite gentle technique of allowing a child himself, you see, to change the relationship of the bones. And it does get children beautiful heads, very beautiful heads.

(1:05:40 student) It’s a very delicate balancing technique.

(1:05:42) It’s a very delicate balancing technique. And that school of the osteopaths had a much greater perception of the necessity of balance than the more cruder school.

(1:06:02 student) Is any movement [ ]?

(1:06:04 student) Very gentle; in the theories that I understand it, is that freeing the cranium actually supports the cranium are more restricted in their motions than others. The temporal bone may be locked on one side, not the other. They feel they can delineate which area of the cranium is restricted in its motion, and by just holding the head and balancing this bone [that’s got it through], you balance the 2 sides of the cranium. And at this time, major things happen.

(1:06:36 student) And by doing it so gently the child is actually allowed to –

(1:06:45) Well it isn’t always gentle, that child is apt to start screaming, and that screaming does the job.

(1:06:47 student) The reaction, right. I’ve seen completely, really spaced out adults too. It’s sort of a jolt, to go into the very heavy places with them.

(1:07:58 student) We’ve mentioned Swedenborg a couple of times. Who and where was he?…

(1:07:08) Swedenborg is a man whose followers, as of right now, consider him literally on a par with Jesus Christ. He was a Swede who lived in the 18^th century, that’s right. To a great extent he was a very practical man. He was a much more practical man than you expect in mystics. If I remember, he held government jobs in mining. Anybody remember that? Anybody know about this? At any rate, he held very down-to-earth government regulatory jobs. And all of the sudden the guy got a notion, (I think this was a sequence.)

(1:08:02) All of a sudden the guy got a notion that he wanted to know more about human bodies, and he went from Sweden down into Italy, and he says, spent something like 2 years in Italy, just doing anatomy and dissection and one thing and another. And I think it was after that, that he had this tremendous psychic experience of entering into another world, which he could largely handle at will. And in being in the other world, as he felt it and expressed it, he brought through a very great deal of, presumably, data about what is the soul and how does it act, and etc., etc., etc., etc.

(1:08:52) And by this time, of course, everybody said, well Swedenborg is crazy, and even today if you are quoting Swedenborg, you will meet up with people who will say, “Oh, well that insane individual, why, consider him?” But there is a very sizable community on the face of the earth today, the Swedenborgeans, and in every major city there is at least one Swedenborgean church, and as I say to you, the people who really take Swedenborg seriously feel that he is literally on a level with Jesus Christ.

(1:09:35 student) There’s a lot in San Francisco. A lot of Swedenborgeans.

(1:09:36) Yeah, and they have one of the sweetest little churches I’ve ever seen anywhere, down near Redondo Beach. Oh, that is a loveable place! And there’s a very going Swedenborgean society, I say it’s very going, I must admit, it sometimes, it goes very slowly, who are custodians of the material that Swedenborg brought through and are responsible for reprinting this sort of thing.

(1:10:13) Some of the kind of Swedenborg material which would be of interest to you people, that is the material that has to do with human bodies; there is a vast material there. This is complicated by the problems of who it was that did the translation. And you see, when it was a clergyman that was translating anatomy, the translation is frequently not that clear.

(1:10:47) But Boericke, if I remember rightly, Boericke the homeopath, the man who founded Boric and Tafel, who was really a very well informed medic... He made a translation which is pretty hard to get. And there are books, the titles of which are the Animal Kingdom, and the Economy of the Animal Kingdom, and those are not the same books. The Economy is not the Animal Kingdom. And then there are these books, the Brain. Now the Brain is impossible thing to get a hold of. Originally there were 6 copies, (or was it 4?) printed, and that’s all. Old…Sutherland had one of those. And when somebody accused him, or suggested to him, “Oh I see where you got some of your ideas,” that book disappeared. And it hasn’t reappeared. Even after his death it hasn’t reappeared…

(1:12:15) Boericke and Tafel were a pair of well qualified physicians, qualified in the conventional school, and then became homeopaths, and they set up one of the two very large homeopathic supplies outfits in this country. And home base was in Philadelphia, and they had an outlet in New York, and by and by, as homeopathy shut down more and more, the New York place was shut down, and they now are still operational in Philadelphia, and Boericke collected some very good homeopathic material [medicas]. I mean in terms of homeopathy, Boericke is way up at the top of the list. Who Mr. Tafel was I never did get. Boericke is now dead of course, and Tafel probably is too. There is a very big homeopathic supply house in Chicago in his name, and at the moment I don’t recall the connection….

7^th Hour

(1:13:30) So, now, you see, this consideration belongs between the 6^th hour and the 7^th hour, because what you see in that pumping of the sacrum is what Mr. Sutherland was talking about, I think. But Mr. Sutherland did not know how to induce it in this fashion.

(1:14:00) And you see, what that really does is literally establish a polarity between the cranium and the coccyx. A polarity in which there is a spanning and the tone of the spanning has a rhythm, and that this is the vital mechanism within a man – this is a vital mechanism within a man. Now as you all know, in most men this does not work. And what happens there and then, I don’t know, they’re not all dead. They’re not all zombies. Many of them are out in the wide, wide world working like troopers; and it’s not an all or nothing situation. But it has to be that if you establish this other polarity, you are getting a new dimension added to the operation to the man. I don’t see how it’s possible not to assume this. And no matter how you slice it, you can’t talk about that dimension in terms of blood circulation for instance. You can’t simplify it. Something is changing, something is going on. And then you see, you’re getting a different speed of rhythm, which is geared in with the heart and the lung rhythm that is going all the way through that individual.

(1:16:18) And if you begin to look at the people around you who have been processed, versus the people around you who have not been processed, and even how they sit in their chairs and so forth, you begin to become aware of the fact that a man is not a blob, but that he is a something within which there is this everlasting movement.

(1:16:49) And then you see, having started to establish this down at the bottom, then you go up to do that 7^th hour work. And your 7^th hour starts like all 7^th hours, at the periphery. It starts at the periphery of the cranium, at the neck. The splenius, the sternocleidomastoid, the trapezius, the what have you; the outside working in. And you free these muscles much more than they have been freed. And you have to remember that those muscles attach down as far as the 2nd rib, that those muscles are interfered with when the clavicle is glued under the 1^st rib, but this has to be organized in order to permit that cranium to set itself squarely within the shoulder yoke.

(1:18:00) ‘Cause the old anatomists call that shoulder girdle a yoke, and why they were so smart, I don’t know. But on the other hand, Mr. James was in here yesterday, as you know, and you could all see a yoke on that man. And what I’m saying to you people is, that these people who were brought up in the relatively simple nutritional patterns that were prevalent in outlying districts throughout Europe, showed up different patternings; patternings that had been destroyed by our different type of nutritional organization. I was amazed to see that man, whom I know, because I had my hands on him, I know what amount of trouble that guy was in when he came to us. He was literally made if – he was an iron man. And yet here, 7 hours after, you see the basic pattern all out there, all screaming to be given their proper job to do. And I must, we must, get a hold of those basic – and publish within our own group – that basic book of western crisis with those pictures. We must, because it is urgently important that you people see this. Okay.

(1:20:02) So, as I say, you get a hold of that head and everything that you are doing in that head is enabling you to relate that head to free space. To get those eyes looking out on a horizontal, to see a horizontal line of the mouth, to see a 3-dimensional organization of that head; because just as the pelvis is the key to the vital being of that body, so the positioning of this tremendous nervous plexus that is within the head is the key to the behavior that is dependant on nervous tissue in the body. And you see, that stuff that is within the cranium is in a hydrostatic equilibrium; this is really a fluid material, as you all know. And if you are tipping that head up this way, you’re going to get different pressures on different centers than if you’re tipping your head this way, or not tipping your head this way. If your head is consistently over to one side, you are going to get different relationships between the 4^th ventricle for instance and its surrounding structures. Or, you name it, and you see that it is so.

(1:22:10) You know Don, when it comes right down to it, the other end of that line has got to be the pituitary or the pineal. I mean that’s the single thing.

(1:22:21 student) Yeah, I guess it’s the pituitary in the pituitary axis, and the mid-part of the hypothalamus that feeds the pituitary.

(1:22:28) Yeah, but you see those are the only single things, where you come to the cerebral lobes you have that [ ] there.

(1:22:34 student) Yeah, it would have to be the back stem in the middle. There isn’t any direct mirrors communication to the pituitary; it’s all chemical mediated. So it would have to be in the hypothalamus directly above the pituitary, I would think, that would be the correspondent to the impar. And the pineal I don’t know much about.

(1:23:03) Neither does anybody else that I’ve ever been able to find out about. I’d certainly like to see and find out a little about it…

(1:23:17 student) There was an interesting book by [Gillmor], Don, on the somatic autonomic integration of the hypothalamus. He’s, unfortunately, never explored the impar ganglion, or any of the other ganglion for that matter, but he’s written 2 books on just this problem of somatic autonomic balance and the hypothalamus. His name is [Gillmore]. It’s called, I think, Somatic Automatic Balance.

(1:23:54) There’s one problem about knowing too much, and that is that you break down your overall patterning into details. You get the notion that, “Oh I’m going after the hypothalamus,” or something like this. Just as soon as you do that, you’ve lost your touch. And I warn you all, it is a whole tendency of our age, and it is the reason why we are in trouble in terms of health understandings now – because we have broken these down into too small parts. And we cannot see the whole because we keep looking at the trees; we can’t see the forest. And don’t get the notion that because you know a very great many details that you have the capacity in your hand for remedy, because you’ve all seen what happens here, when you can handle the overall pattern. It’s such a – to me too – it’s such a temptation to get myself enamored, be-glamoured, of these sweetened byways out into the woods; there’s this kind of a tree, and there’s that kind of a tree, and there’s the other kind of a tree. But the thing that you have to do, if you are trying to do to the kind of work that we’ve established here, is to resist temptation. It’s hard to do.

(1:25:35 student) It should be, ‘cause we start with something that works, and then all a sudden you’re right back where mainstream [started] it and getting nowhere.

(1:25:40) And you thin it down, and presently, that’s right, and getting nowhere. And this is the reason that you guys have to stick together, in order to keep a climate of thinking in terms of wholes and not pieces. It’s going to be a tough road you’re going to travel, but some of you will be able to make that bridge, I am absolutely sure.

Working in the mouth

(1:26:08) Getting back to that 7^th hour. It doesn’t seem to have occurred to anybody, except for the cranial osteopaths – and not very much to them – that the literal free space balance of the head depended and depends, on muscles that are inside the head as well as outside the head. This never occurred to them. It never occurred to them that in terms of the physical carriage of the body, the individual who carries his head forward and wanted to balance the imbalance that is held below, as for instance Jerry over here, will have managed to get himself the kind of muscular imbalance inside of his head which has many significances; the whole tongue will have moved forward. And in that the tongue as a whole and the whole tongue has moved forward, you now have all kinds of pressures into the 6^th cervical. You also have all kinds of interferences with the well being of the thyroid, and the para-thyroid, and the thymus, etc., etc. But one of the reasons why that anterior 6^th cervical has always been a major boo-ga-boo to osteopaths and to chiropractors, has been that they haven’t understood that they can’t get a 6^th cervical back until they let this stuff come back. And this stuff is the stuff that lies under the chin, in front, it is all a pre-vertebral soft tissue, and in order to organize the cervicals you have got to organize that soft tissue, and so you go into the mouth. Therefore, you have to go into the mouth.

(1:28:51) Now the smarter you are with your preparation, the less necessity there is to go into the mouth. But there is a certain amount of necessity developed, no matter how smart you are.

(1:29:07) But I called your attention, especially those of you that do not play around protected by MDs, that legally you are in a much stronger position as you get more experience handling this tissue from the outside. It’s the same sort of stuff we were talking about in terms of vaginal and rectal techniques: Once you are inside of that body, you are in dangerous territory, and it may blow up on you anytime! Do not ever, under any circumstances go into the mouth of anybody whose emotional stability you doubt, because you don’t know what you’re touching. You don’t know how emotion-charged those areas are, and they’re not telling you at this particular point.

(1:30:24) Supposing this whole situation is literally a shut up box of emotion that has to do with birth, and very early nursing experiences, and childhood, and so forth. And you get into that after you have known this man or woman only for 6 hours, and the thing blows right up in your face. It can blow up in your face if you’ve been handling that neck on the outside. It can blow up into your face if you’re handling that neck on the inside. And they can swear by all that’s holy that you have damaged them forever, and there is nobody to disprove it, because nobody knows except you, and you’re the one that is now the defender. So be careful with this technique. There is a good reason why some of these people avoid the 7^th hour stuff and yet, unless you get that head where it is going, you haven’t done what you can do. But just remember, that you do not have to give salvation to every human being that walks the earth. Your job is to make them walk a little more comfortably, and their salvation has to come from some other sources.

(1:32:15) So you go in there, finding out for yourself, perhaps, that the positioning of the tone determines where your 2^nd and 3^rd cervicals are going to be, and where your 6^th cervical is going to be.

(1:32:29 student) What happens when you tell this to chiropractors, in the past, did you get any…

(1:32:27) I don’t explain it. That’s what you’re paying money here for, to hear what I think about this. A certain number of chiropractors have been in my class, of course, but there not, you know, average. Any chiropractor, if he opens his eyes and his mind, can understand, however, that he can give better cervical adjustments if the pelvis is turned under. I mean this is so utterly obvious under your hands. But this whole head trip, in a different sense of head trip, is not a something that – you see except you have the background of understanding of structure; what are you trying to do in the structuring of the body? It doesn’t really have meaning to you. And one of the things that you have to learn, and it takes a hell of a lot of discipline to learn it, is to learn not to try to teach people who aren’t ready to hear, who haven’t got the basic fundamental understanding to put what you’re saying in it’s right perspective. You must learn to shut-up. It’s the toughest thing you’ll ever learn.

(1:34:07) Now, when you get to the hard palette, you are no longer dealing with those cervicals. Then you are dealing with the relation between frontal and temporal and sphenoids etc, etc; and all of these bones are related through elastic connective tissue. So there is no earthly reason why they can’t be eased, if you’re smart enough, into areas that are easier. Now all of you have seen those faces change, and I’m certain that no one in this room would stand up and argue that a skull can’t change, or parts of it can’t change in relation to other parts. You’ve seen it.

(1:35:25) The sphenoid is particularly vulnerable to emotional, as well as physical trauma. A person who has suffered a very deep emotional grief will very often just have that sphenoid drop back, and their eyes seem to be so deep in their heads. And low and behold, after you’ve given a 7^th hour, or even before, those eyes start coming out, they start looking at the world again, and being in the world again. Whereas after this terrific emotional grief, which may last for years, as a matter of fact, they are just deep inside them and they can’t make contact. And along about that time the neighbors begin really “ohhing” and “ahhing”, because Mrs. So and So not only looks so different, but Mrs. So and So picks up a telephone and chit chats with her neighbors, and nobody’s seen her do this since her daughter died 5 years ago, etc.

(1:36:40) And along about that time you begin to understand something else about grief, as you begin to understand about other emotions. That grief certainly is an emotion, but that like all emotions, it has this physical component; it moves flesh, it moves bones. Grief moves it by pulling out stability. You’re just so shook-up that nothing is stable any more. It’s not stable chemically either.

(1:37:34) And then, as you begin really getting this head in order, you begin to find out that heads are different things. They’re not chunks of bone. They do not feel like stone. Bone does not feel like stone. Bone is a living substance, and it’s an energized substance, and it’s a vital substance, and I know that head that you’re working on feels as though it were living, and you can feel that it is a cellular spongy material, (not a soft sponge but a structural sponge,) or else you haven’t done your job.

(1:38:35) You can go down the line, in a school system for instance, where you have kids in the class all lined up, and you can go down the line, and apparently caress the children, by putting your hand on their head, and you can know every one of those kids that’s in trouble, or that’s going to be in trouble by tomorrow, the kid that’s going to be down with measles tomorrow, you can feel it in their head, ‘cause their head is now burning. It will be burning before they really come down sick. And the kid whose head feels like stone, and there are plenty of them, is the kid that’s been taken to every doctor in the town with some mysterious illness. And every doctor in the town says, “Well I can’t find anything.” But mama says she doesn’t act like a child of her age should. And all you’ll have to do is change that stone to bone, and the kid changes. And becomes normal, and it’s a recipe that works and it works every time.

(1:40:00) And you can feel the circulatory currents that are within that head. And if you can’t, you haven’t done your job, because by the time you are able to do this job you are able to do this feeling. There’s no question about it. The changes that have been made in you as you are prepared to become practitioners. See, this is why I feel that this can never be that widespread a healing cult, because you can only change a limited number of people to become practitioners. You can’t go out and teach a hundred people in a class. And until these people have their own level of being at an appropriate height, they cannot produce the change necessary.

(1:41:18) So at the end of that 7^th hour, these people should be energizing themselves and their immediate environment differently. And this you have not only heard, but this you have seen. Amen, amen, let’s have some coffee.

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